The hits keep coming for Tampa Bay.  Brayden Point is now out indefinitely after an ugly crash into the boards on Saturday.  The Tampa lineup is starting to get pretty thin.  Stammer has been forced to go back to center, with Alex Barre-Boulet getting time on the top line.  Barre-Boulet scored in Sunday’s game against the Wild.  He’s a decent streamer now.  The more interesting player is Anthony Cirelli, who scored two goals on five shots with two PIM on Sunday playing over 24 minutes.  It’s pretty clear that Cirelli is going to be the top minute getter for Tampa for the time being.  I think he becomes a must hold in all formats.  Let’s take a look at what else happened around the league this weekend:

Friday’s Games

Cale Makar – Two goals and an assist with six shots.  Any concerns about Makar should be alleviated with 12 points in the last eight games.

Nazem Kadri – Two assists with three shots.  He’ll get all the top line minutes with MacKinnon gone and should continue to be a borderline top 50 guy.

Andre Burakovsky – Two goals. We’re in a weird spot where Burakovsky is running the point on PP1, but the minutes aren’t great.  This game was a blowout, but he still only played 12 minutes.  I lean more elite streamer for that reason, but you can talk me into holding.

Tyson Jost – Two assists with a shot.  I was hoping for more from Jost, but it hasn’t happened this year.  He’s only a bottom end streamer for now.

Saturday’s Games

Derek Stepan – Goal and an assist.  His role is so small with Carolina that I don’t even want to stream him.

Sebastian Aho – Goal and an assist with two shots.  It’s been as good of a start from Aho that we could have hoped for.

Adrian Kempe – Two goals on four shots.  I thought about leading the post with Kempe as he’s back on the first line with Kopitar and a healthy Viktor Arvidsson.  He’s over three shots per game on the season which puts Kempe on the fringe, although I lean elite streamer.

Alex Edler – Two assists with a shot.  Even with Doughty out, Edler’s minutes haven’t been as good as I hoped.  His shot rate is also way down so he’s an easy pass unless you need to stream blocks.

Yegor Sharangovich – Two goals and an assist with three shots.  He was goalless on the season before this game and pointless in the previous nine.  No thanks.

Jonas Siegenthaler – Two assists with a shot.  And there’s your annual Siegenthaler update!

Jan Rutta – Goal and an assist.  Speaking of rare updates… nothing to see here for fantasy.

Joel Eriksson Ek – Goal and an assist with three shots.  Eriksson Ek has found his groove lately so I lean towards holding him, but it’s close.

Kirill Kaprizov – Goal and an assist with six shots.  The Thrill is back!

Frank Vatrano – Two goals and an assist with three shots.  Vatrano tends to have a handful of games a year where he goes off.  Hello DFS GPP cheap guy!  Middling streamer in season-long because his minutes are generally low.

Aaron Ekblad – Two assists with three shots.  The PIM are down, but Ekblad has crushed the board otherwise.  Slam dunk #1 option.

Matt Duchene – Hat trick, both assisted by Ryan Johansen and Mikael Granlund.  Despite Saturday’s result, Nashville has been a pleasant surprise on the back of Duchene finding his game again.  Duchene has been the best player off waivers this season and should be held everywhere.  Johansen is a bottom end streamer due a poor shot rate.  Granlund is on the fringe.  I want to hold with 18 points in 17 games, but the shots are quite bad for him as well.

Tyler Toffoli – Goal and two assists with three shots and two PIM.  He’s had a rough start like most of the Montreal players, but I’ve been stubbornly holding him anyways.  I think it’s only a matter of time until he gets going again.

Jonathan Drouin – Two assists with two shots.  Drouin is in the middling stream range right now.

Noah Hanifin – Three assists with a shot.  I was hoping for a step forward this season but it hasn’t happened offensively.  I don’t see anything for fantasy.

Johnny Gaudreau – Goal and an assist with four shots and two PIM.  Gaudreau’s UFA season couldn’t be going any better.  He seems to be proving me wrong as he’s over three shots per game and over a point per game.

Andrew Mangiapane – Two goals on three shots.  Absolutely wild season from Mangiapane who has 14 goals and two assists!  He has to be held right now, but it doesn’t seem sustainable.

Brock Nelson – Two goals on six shots. Nelson has been JV Mangiapane with 9+2.  His shot rate is much better though so I can see Nelson being a hold eventually.  I lean towards elite streamer for now though.

David Pastrnak – Goal and an assist with seven shots. Pastrnak is at a point per game despite poor shooting luck.  Very encouraging for him going forward.

Derek Forbort – Two goals on three shots with four PIM.  Forbort has been in the league for a while and never had more than two goals in a season, then he gets two in a game!  Still nothing for fantasy.

Craig Smith – Goal and an assist with four shots.  Smith has had a really rough go to start the season.  The shot rate is solid, but he’s only bottom end for now.

Derick Brassard – Two goals, both assisted by Claude Giroux. Brassard has been surprisingly productive so far.  I have him as a solid streamer with Giroux an easy hold.

Tristan Jarry – 26 save shutout in the 2-0 win over the Maple Leafs.  Back to back shutouts for Jarry has his numbers on the season looking great.  I had him as a #2, but he looks like a bottom end #1 this season now.

Jake Oettinger – 35 saves on 36 shots in the 4-1 win over the Blues.  It will be interesting to see how much action Oettinger gets going forward, but he’s been solid when he’s played so I’m looking to stream him.

Roope Hintz – Two goals on three shots and two PIM.  Hintz is starting to find his form again so I’m still holding after being stubborn early on.

Jamie Benn – Goal and an assist with four PIM.  Benn has been solid across the board which puts him on the fringe.  I lean bottom end hold.

Esa Lindell – Two assists with three shots.  Not much from Lindell anymore so I wouldn’t use him outside of the deepest of leagues.

Michael Raffl – Two assists with a shot.  And there’s your annual Raffl update!

Scott Wedgewood – 33 saves on 34 shots in the 2-1 win over the Coyotes.  I just can’t bring myself to use a Coyotes goalie no matter what.

Alex DeBrincat – Two goals, both assisted by Kirby Dach.  DeBrincat is playing some incredible hockey lately. If he maintains shooting three shots per game again, I have no doubt that he’ll end up in the 40 goal range. Dach is a solid streamer, but I’m not holding yet despite the workload.

Leon Draisaitl – Goal and an assist, as did Connor McDavid.  That’s basically the expectation for these two right now.

Evan Bouchard – Two assists with two shots.  Long term, I absolutely love Bouchard. Right now, he’s on the fringe but I’m leaning towards holding with his minutes up.

Zach Werenski – Two assists with six shots and two PIM.  Werenski is solidifying himself as a #1D. With the minutes through the roof, he’s on pace for 60 points and 250+ shots.

Jake Bean – Two assists.  Bean has been solid but nothing special.  I like Bean a lot long term, but now, he’s on the fringe.  I lean towards leaving him on the waiver wire though.

Ilya Samsonov – 22 save shutout in the 4-0 win over the Sharks.  Samsonov has been dominant when he’s started this season.  He needs to be held everywhere.

Alex Ovechkin – Two goals and an assist with four shots.  Insert superlatives here.

John Carlson – Two assists with two shots.  Carlson is starting to catch back up to his usual production.

Conor Sheary – Two goals on four shots.  Sheary was on a roll, but unfortunately, he missed the game Sunday against the Kraken.  He’s a middling streamer normally.

Sunday’s Games

Rasmus Dahlin – Goal and an assist with four shots.  These are the games that are encouraging for Dahlin.  Overall, the numbers are solid across the board making him an easy hold.  I still think he can find another level.  It’s crazy that he’s only 21 years old still.

Tage Thompson – Goal and an assist with two shots.  Tage has been a huge surprise for the Sabres.  I have him as an elite streamer but you can easily argue that he’s a hold and I wouldn’t find issue with it.

Artemi Panarin – Three assists with four shots.  Panarin has caught fire which was always only a matter of time.

Adam Fox – Two assists with two shots.  Fox has found a way to be better offensively this season than last.

Alex Goligoski – Two assists with two PIM.  Gogo has been way better than I ever expected.  You can argue he’s a hold, although it’s very assist heavy.  AAGNOF!

Kevin Fiala – Goal and an assist with five shots. The shot rate, chef’s kiss.  I have no doubt that Fiala is going to push towards being a top 50 guy again.

Matthew Tkachuk – Two assists with three shots.  Tkachuk appears to be on the verge of a top 20 season.  Dominant in all categories so far.

Dan Vladar – 27 save shutout in the 4-0 win over the Bruins.  He won’t play much, but Vladar is worth streaming every time he starts with the Flames playing Sutter hockey.

Justin Woll – 20 save shutout in the 2-0 win over the Islanders.  Woll will barely play and despite this start, I don’t have much interest in using him when he does.  Welcome to the Razzball Database!

Mitch Marner – Two goals on four shots.  Marner is quickly getting back to a point per game erasing the dreadful start and all Toronto fans calling for his head.

Marc-Andre Fleury – 40 save shutout in the 1-0 win over the Canucks.  MAF holds over the Canucks and despite Chicago’s struggles, that continued here.  I can go either way with Fleury.

Thatcher Demko -23 saves on 24 shots as the tough luck loser.  Demko is getting hung out to dry right now, and I’m not sure it gets better.  I’m probably holding, but it’s closer than I ever imagined.

Tom Wilson – Goal and an assist with four shots playing over 22 minutes.  Easy hold in all formats.

Jaden Schwartz – Goal and three assists with five shots.  Schwartz has found his game again with the Kraken and needs to be held in all formats.

Calle Jarnkrok – Goal and an assist.  Jarnkrok had stretches of quality offense in Nashville, but it hasn’t happened in Seattle yet.  Easy pass for now.

Yanni Gourde – Goal and an assist with two PIM.  You can go either way with Gourde right now.  I’ve been holding, but it’s not a slam dunk.

Karel Vejmelka – 37 saves on 38 shots in the 2-1 OT win over the Kings.  I still can’t bring myself to even consider using a Desert Dogs goalie.

Travis Boyd – Goal and an assist with two shots and two PIM.  Boyd has been decent so far, but he’s not on my streaming radar.

Clayton Keller – Two assists with two shots.  Keller has been okay, but I only have him as a middling streamer.  It’s just so hard to want to use Arizona players.

Three Point Challenge:  We will do Wednesday’s Games this week with the different schedule due to Thanksgiving.  You can put picks in this post, or in Wednesday’s.  Again, no top ten players.

That’s all for now guys.  With the shortened week, the plan is for Wednesday to be an updated hold/stream list.  There will also be no JKJ streaming post with no Thursday games, but he’ll be back next week.  As always, feel free to ask any questions, leave any comments, or give any suggestions below.  Thanks for reading, take care!

  1. Toolshed says:
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    Do you think quick is going to take more time away from peterson? I was expecting the opposite. I targeted peterson because he was cheap. Should I hold or move on? He is a second goalie and not helping but he is at a 50/50 split now.

    I know kadri is on a crazy pace. Do you expect him to revert back to his usual 50-ish point pace once the Avs get healthy or is this his career year?

    I recall reading about being bullish on mccann. He has 11 pts in 13 games but is shooting 28%. I have no clue what Hakstol is doing with his lines and ice time. Mccann has got about 9 and 10 min toi over last couple of games. Should I be concerned? Thanks

    • Viz

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      I was expecting the same as you. For now, I think it’ll be a split while Quick is playing well, but eventually, I think it’ll go more 2/1 in Petersen’s favor. It depends who is out there, but I’d probably still hold.

      Well, in his first full season (lockout shortened), Kadri played at a 31+44 pace, and had a few 32 goal seasons, so he has eclipsed the 50 point range a few times. Obviously with this head start, a new career high in points looks possible, if not likely. As long as he stays on PP1, I think the numbers should stay strong even with Mac Daddy comes back.

      I also have no clue what is going on in Seattle. It’s definitely concerning that the minutes are so low at the moment. There’s no way he can stay productive at that minute level. I don’t think you have to cut him immediately, but it’s worth monitoring to see if this lasts over the next week to 10 days because then there may be better options out there.

  2. LG Hockey says:
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    Great stuff Viz!

    1) In a keeper would you rather own Dougie Hamilton or Kirill Kaprizov? We play 2 Centres, 2 LW and 2 RW and 4 D and categories are G, A, P, +/-, PPP, SOG, Hits and W, GAA, SV% and SO.

    2) Would you rather have Hamilton or Kuemper? We start 2 goalies.

    Thanks!
    LG

    • Viz

      Viz says:
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      Hmm, I like Dougie more right now, but factoring in the age difference, I think I would go Kaprizov. Prefer Hamilton to Kuemper though. Unless you’re talking the top handful of goalies that are both young and elite at the moment (Vas, Hellebuyck, Igor, Saros), I will prefer to take the top skater in most instances. While the expectation is that Kuemper stays in Colorado, if he doesn’t, his value would plummet and I couldn’t take that risk.

  3. Gerald says:
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    Hey Viz love the articles you and JKJ putting out. Keepem coming!

    In a head to head Goalie cats Wins losses SV% GAA and shutouts

    Min 3 appearances per a week

    woudl you drop vitacenek for oettinger other goalie is kuemper

    Thanks Happy Thanksgiving guys

    • Viz

      Viz says:
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      Thanks Gerald! Will be a lighter week here than usual because of no Thanksgiving games, but next week we’ll be back to normal, especially on my end. I’ll be back in Buffalo for the first time in two months for the foreseeable future.

      I would keep Vanecek. The save percentage isn’t great, but the GAA is solid and he’s been brutally unlucky in the wins department with 4 OTL already. Samsonov is playing well, but I see a split there, and I don’t see Oettinger carrying much value over the full season with Holtby DTD.

  4. Chet says:
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    Thanks, Viz! I’ll take Pasta vs BUF this Wednesday for the 3 points.

    • Viz

      Viz says:
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      Sounds good, no problem!

  5. JP says:
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    Hi!

    G/A/SOG/BLK/PPP and +/-, 8-teamer

    Great articles! Please rank Atkinson, Hyman and Pacioretty ROS.

    • Viz

      Viz says:
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      Thanks! Pacioretty, Hyman, Atkinson in that order. Pretty clearly in that order for me as well assuming Patches comes back in the next week as anticipated

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